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1 Charles III , A.D. 2022, Canada

1st Session, 44th Parliament

Issue 85 (Unrevised)

Tuesday, November 29, 2022
2 p.m.

The Honourable GEORGE J. FUREY, Speaker


The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

AndersonAtaullahjanBattersBellemareBlackBoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBoveyBoyerBrazeauBussonCampbellCardozoCarignanChristmasClementCordyCormierCotterCoyleDagenaisDalphondDaskoDawsonDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DeanDowneDuncanDupuisFrancisFureyGagnéGerbaGignacGoldGreeneHarderHartlingHousakosJafferKlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLoffredaLovelace NicholasMacDonaldManningMarshallMartinMarwahMcCallumMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMocklerMoncionMoodieOhOmidvarOslerPatePatterson (Nunavut)PlettQuinnRavaliaRichardsSaint-GermainSeidmanSimonsSmithSorensenTannasVernerWallinWellsWooYussuff

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

AndersonAtaullahjanBattersBellemareBlackBoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBoveyBoyerBrazeauBussonCampbellCardozoCarignanChristmasClementCordyCormierCotterCoyleDagenaisDalphondDaskoDawsonDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DeanDowneDuncanDupuisFrancisFureyGagné*GalvezGerbaGignacGoldGreeneHarderHartlingHousakosJafferKlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLoffredaLovelace NicholasMacDonaldManningMarshallMartinMarwahMcCallumMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMocklerMoncionMoodieOhOmidvarOslerPatePatterson (Nunavut)PlettQuinnRavaliaRichardsSaint-GermainSeidmanSimonsSmithSorensenTannasVernerWallinWellsWooYussuff

The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.

An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.

PRAYERS

INTRODUCTION OF SENATORS

The Honourable the Speaker informed the Senate that the Clerk of the Senate had received a certificate from the Registrar General of Canada showing that Leonard Andrew Cardozo had been summoned to the Senate.

The Honourable the Speaker informed the Senate that there was a senator without waiting to be introduced.

The Honourable Senator Cardozo was introduced between the Honourable Senator Gold, P.C., and the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson, and having presented His Majesty’s Writ of Summons it was read by one of the clerks at the table as follows:

CANADA

Ian McCowan

(G.S.)

Charles the Third, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, Canada and His other Realms and Territories KING, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.

TO

Our Trusty and Well-beloved,

LEONARD ANDREW CARDOZO

of the City of Ottawa, in the Province of Ontario,

GREETING:

KNOW YOU, that as well for the especial trust and confidence We have manifested in you, as for the purpose of obtaining your advice and assistance in all weighty and arduous affairs which may the State and Defence of Canada concern, We have thought fit to summon you to the Senate of Canada.

AND WE do command you, that all difficulties and excuses whatsoever laying aside, you be and appear for the purposes aforesaid, in the Senate of Canada at all times whensoever and wheresoever Our Parliament may be in Canada convoked and holden, and this you are in no wise to omit.

IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent and the Great Seal of Canada to be hereunto affixed.

WITNESS:

IAN McCOWAN, Deputy of Our Right Trusty and Well-beloved Mary May Simon, Chancellor and Principal Companion of Our Order of Canada, Chancellor and Commander of Our Order of Military Merit, Chancellor and Commander of Our Order of Merit of the Police Forces, Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada.

AT OTTAWA, this twenty-first day of November in the year of Our Lord two thousand and twenty-two and in the first year of Our Reign.

BY COMMAND,

F.-P. CHAMPAGNE

Registrar General of Canada

The Honourable Senator Cardozo came to the table and took and subscribed the oath prescribed by law, which was administered by the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel, the Commissioner appointed for that purpose, and took his seat as a member of the Senate.

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The Honourable the Speaker informed the Senate that the honourable senator introduced today had made and subscribed the Declaration of Qualification required of him by the Constitution Act, 1867, in the presence of the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel, the Commissioner appointed to receive and witness same.

Senators’ Statements

Tributes

Tribute was paid to the memory of the Honourable Jean Lapointe, former senator, whose death occurred on November 18, 2022.

Senators’ Statements

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

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The Senate observed a minute of silence in memory of former senator the Honourable Jean Lapointe.

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

Introduction and First Reading of Senate Public Bills

The Honourable Senator Ataullahjan introduced Bill S-257, An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act (protecting against discrimination based on political belief).

The bill was read the first time.

The Honourable Senator Ataullahjan moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Seidman, that the bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a second reading two days hence.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Question Period

The Senate proceeded to Question Period.

Orders of the Day

Government Business

Bills – Second Reading

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Reports of Committees – Other

Order No. 7 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Motions

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Inquiries

Orders No. 3 and 4 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Other Business

Senate Public Bills – Third Reading

Third reading of Bill S-246, An Act respecting Lebanese Heritage Month.

The Honourable Senator Cordy moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Dalphond, that the bill be read for a third time.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Ataullahjan, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Senate Public Bills – Reports of Committees

Consideration of the eighth report of the Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs (Bill S-210, An Act to restrict young persons' online access to sexually explicit material, with an amendment and observations), presented in the Senate on November 15, 2022.

The Honourable Senator Jaffer moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Miville-Dechêne, that the report be adopted.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Ataullahjan, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Senate Public Bills – Second Reading

Orders No. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Pate, seconded by the Honourable Senator Dean, for the second reading of Bill S-233, An Act to develop a national framework for a guaranteed livable basic income.

The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Ataullahjan, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 11, 12, 13 and 14 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Klyne, seconded by the Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., for the second reading of Bill S-241, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Wild Animal and Plant Protection and Regulation of International and Interprovincial Trade Act (great apes, elephants and certain other animals).

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Plett, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25 and 26 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Second reading of Bill S-256, An Act to amend the Canada Post Corporation Act (seizure) and to make related amendments to other Acts.

The Honourable Senator Dalphond moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Cordy, that the bill be read the second time.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Seidman, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Commons Public Bills – Second Reading

Orders No. 1, 2 and 3 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Reports of Committees – Other

Order No. 27 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Motions

Orders No. 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 11 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator McCallum, seconded by the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson:

That the Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources be authorized to examine and report on the cumulative positive and negative impacts of resource extraction and development, and their effects on environmental, economic and social considerations, when and if the committee is formed; and

That the committee submit its final report no later than December 31, 2022.

The Honourable Senator Wells moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Batters, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 19, 30, 50, 52 and 77 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Verner, P.C., seconded by the Honourable Senator Miville-Dechêne:

That, in light of the reports of the Senate Ethics Officer dated March 9, 2017, and June 28, 2019, concerning the breaches by former Senator Don Meredith of the Ethics and Conflict of Interest Code for Senators as well as the statement made in the Senate on June 25, 2020, by the chair of the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration expressing regrets to the victims of Mr. Meredith’s misconduct, the Senate call upon the Prime Minister to advise Her Excellency the Governor General to take the necessary steps to revoke the honorific style and title of “Honourable” from former senator Don Meredith.

After debate,

In amendment, the Honourable Senator Tannas moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Verner, P.C.:

That the motion be not now adopted, but that it be amended by replacing all the words after the word “That,” by the following:

“in the opinion of the Senate, Her Excellency the Governor General should take the necessary steps to revoke the honorific style and title of “Honourable” from:

(a)any former senator having been convicted of a criminal offence proceeded with by way of indictment; and

(b)former senator Don Meredith, in light of the reports of the Senate Ethics Officer dated March 9, 2017, and June 28, 2019, concerning the breaches by the former senator of the Ethics and Conflict of Interest Code for Senators, as well as the statement made in the Senate on June 25, 2020, by the chair of the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration expressing regrets to the victims of Mr. Meredith’s misconduct.”.

The question being put on the motion in amendment, it was adopted.

The Senate resumed debate on the motion, as amended, of the Honourable Senator Verner, P.C., seconded by the Honourable Senator Miville-Dechêne:

That, in the opinion of the Senate, Her Excellency the Governor General should take the necessary steps to revoke the honorific style and title of “Honourable” from:

(a)any former senator having been convicted of a criminal offence proceeded with by way of indictment; and

(b)former Senator Don Meredith, in light of the reports of the Senate Ethics Officer dated March 9, 2017, and June 28, 2019, concerning the breaches by the former senator of the Ethics and Conflict of Interest Code for Senators, as well as the statement made in the Senate on June 25, 2020, by the chair of the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration expressing regrets to the victims of Mr. Meredith’s misconduct.

The question being put on the motion, as amended, it was adopted.

Inquiries

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Simons, calling the attention of the Senate to the challenges and opportunities that Canadian municipalities face, and to the importance of understanding and redefining the relationships between Canada’s municipalities and the federal government.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Cormier moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Miville-Dechêne, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Order No. 3 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Coyle, calling the attention of the Senate to the importance of finding solutions to transition Canada’s society, economy and resource use in pursuit of a fair, prosperous, sustainable and peaceful net-zero emissions future for our country and the planet.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Clement moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Ravalia, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

With leave of the Senate,

The Honourable Senator Gagné moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

(Accordingly, at 5:17 p.m., the Senate was continued until tomorrow at 2 p.m.)

DOCUMENTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 14-1(7)

Summary of the Corporate Plan and Budgets for 2022-23 to 2026-27 of Atomic Energy of Canada Limited, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1421.

Legislative Costing Note of the Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer entitled Residential Property Flipping Rule, pursuant to the Parliament of Canada Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-1, sbs. 79.2(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1422.

Legislative Costing Note of the Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer entitled Doubling of First Time Homebuyers’ Tax Credit, pursuant to the Parliament of Canada Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-1, sbs. 79.2(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1423.

Legislative Costing Note of the Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer entitled Eliminating Interest on Federal Student and Apprentice Loans, pursuant to the Parliament of Canada Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-1, sbs. 79.2(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1424.

Report of the British Columbia Treaty Commission, together with the Auditors’ Report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2022, pursuant to the British Columbia Treaty Commission Act, S.C. 1995, c. 45, sbs. 21(3).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1425.

Report of the Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2022, pursuant to the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) and Terrorist Financing Act, S.C. 2000, c. 17, sbs. 71(1).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1426.

Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 12-5

Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources

The Honourable Senator Audette replaced the Honourable Senator Gerba (November 28, 2022).

The Honourable Senator Batters replaced the Honourable Senator Plett (November 25, 2022).

Standing Senate Committee on Human Rights

The Honourable Senator Arnot replaced the Honourable Senator Woo (November 29, 2022).

The Honourable Senator Woo replaced the Honourable Senator Arnot (November 28, 2022).

Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs

The Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., replaced the Honourable Senator Klyne (November 25, 2022).

Standing Senate Committee on National Finance

The Honourable Senator Pate replaced the Honourable Senator Omidvar (November 29, 2022).

The Honourable Senator Omidvar replaced the Honourable Senator Pate (November 28, 2022).

Standing Committee on Rules, Procedures and the Rights of Parliament

The Honourable Senator Dean was added to the membership (November 28, 2022).

The Honourable Senator Saint-Germain replaced the Honourable Senator Lankin, P.C. (November 25, 2022).

The Honourable Senator Saint-Germain was removed from the membership of the committee, substitution pending (November 25, 2022).

Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology

The Honourable Senator Loffreda replaced the Honourable Senator Lankin, P.C. (November 28, 2022).

Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications

The Honourable Senator Manning replaced the Honourable Senator Batters (November 25, 2022).

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